Tuesday, February 20, 2018

2017 white2tea Pussy vs 2017 Yunnan Sourcing He Tao Di


This comparison came to me after sampling 2017 Yunnan Sourcing Brand He Tao Di because the He Tao Di had, in some way, a somewhat similar taste and very similar feel and qi as 2017 white2tea Pussy. 
White2tea’s philosophy is that a tea should stand on its own merit without leaning on its namesake, location, or backstory.  Yunnan Sourcing has brought us a tea from an area that likely no one is familiar with, He Tao Di.  Everyone is pretty much experiencing He Tao Di for the first time, expectations are non-existent with no previous experience to dwell on except Scott’s description the Yunnan Sourcing website.  In the 2017 Yunnan Sourcing blind tasting, lots of other bloggers drew a comparison to Yiwu/ Manzhang area with the He Tao Di.  Alternatively, whie2tea’s Pussy mentions nothing about where the raw material was gathered but it is widely thought tobe YiWu among puerh drinkers.

For me this comparison is a value comparison to see if white2tea’s Pussy ($0.45/gram pictured left or forward) was really more than 2.5 times better than Yunnan Sourcing’s He Tao Di ($0.19/gram pictured right or back).  If He Tao Di could close this gap a little in value or offered something more interesting than Pussy, I can see myself ordering a cake or two.

It can be argued that just because something is twice as expensive something else, it might not be twice as good.  The price of puerh is a complicated issue- What determines the price of puerh?  It’s hard to answer and probably a topic for another post.  Also price/ value are not a ratio and at some point potentially the price might skyrocket in the high margins of quality and languish in the lower quality.  So there isn’t a clear mathematical equation to work out value to price.

I did this side by side comparison at work with some nice Korean ceramic single cup makers the remaining Beta sample (later found to be 2017 He Tao Di) in the Yunnan Sourcing blind tasting event and a similar sized chunk from one of my 2017 white2tea Pussy cakes.

The Pussy’s leaves were larger and darker and more stemy where He Tao Di’s leaves were more varied with some hairy buds and a variety of colors (Scott explains this variability in this video here ).  When the boiling water hit the dry leaves Pussy was much more fragrant while the He Tao Di was still very fragrant but slightly less intense.

The first few infusions saw Pussy with more fragrant tastes and high notes with less low notes and depth in a lighter mouthfeel.  He Tao Di was still very fragrant with some deeper notes to add depth in a noticeably thicker mouthfeel.  In these first few infusions I feel that the Pussy is bit better overall but He Tao Di is showing more depth and range.

Then I steep a few more infusions and the leaves start to open up.  At this point Pussy really starts to pull away from He Tao Di.  Pussy has a very very intense perfume fruit cotton candy sweetness but more monotone in flavor, the mouthfeel is fuller than He Tao Di.  Pussy’s taste is much more vibrant and much longer, deeper, and evolved throughout the taste profile.  He Tao Di is still quite sweet but less so with less pure taste but deeper woodier tastes.  The Yunnan Sourcing offering is more balanced but less clear, pure, and alive.  He Tao Di’s mouthfeel is not as full but has more dynamic movement and change in the mouth.

Overall the He Tao Di mouthfeel is still complete but not as full, thick or stimulating as the Pussy’s mouthfeel.  In these infusions, I feel that Pussy is probably 2.5 times better than He Tao Di if strength, intensity, vibrancy, mouth and throatfeel, and aroma are the metrics by which we evaluate.  However, He Tao Di does have some points which make it interesting.  The deeper woodier notes gives it a bit more polarity in a resoundingly high note profile.  This results in a less monotone taste and a mouthfeel which also changes in the mouth a bit where the Pussy is more of just a thick all-encompassing wave. 

I feel that both of these teas could go quite a while but stop at about 5 or 6 infusions because the qi sensation is very intense.  It is also late afternoon and I want to be able to sleep before mid-night tonight hahaha.  This is the real problem about doing side by side comparisons you really cannot compare the cha qi.  This is one of a few reasons why this is one of the first side by side comparisons on this blog.  I am a Qi guy.  I can tell you this- when doing the blind tasting, the qi sensation of He Tao Di reminded me a lot of Pussy.  In my memory He Tao Di was similar in sensation, but slightly less alerting than Pussy, but gave a good head qi feeling.

The next morning at work, I get back to this back to back comparison…

The next day the He Tao Di showed more variance in taste, profile, and mouth- and throat feel but Pussy still had much more thickness, depth of monotone taste and sustenance to it.

After a few more steeps the He Tao Di’s mouthfeel becomes stronger and woodier with still some subtley of sweeter notes in there as well. The Pussy becomes more watery here with a more expansive sweet aftertaste and cool menthol finish.  At this point, the Pussy is maybe only 1.5-1.75 times better than the He Tao Di.  I steep these teas for a few more infusions.  Then start to put them into longer steeps.

The longer the steep, the better He Tao Di preforms, it actually tastes much better than Pussy now.  He Tao Di has more dynamic, more intense sweetness now.  It performs a bit better than Pussy here.  As the steeps even go into 30 mins in continues to out preform Pussy.

When I started this comparison, I imagined that the Pussy was better but only slightly better than the He Tao Di (maybe Pussy was 1.75 better than He Tao Di but not the 2.5 times better as the price per gram suggests).  So this was really an exercise in seeing if I will purchase He Tao Di.  However, after this comparison I find myself more compelled to purchase more of the Pussy than any of the He Tao Di!

The He Tao Di is still a great tea for the price, let me emphasize this.  It is interesting and even surprising to me that when comparing these two teas that the price/ value actually seems about right.  This rarely happens with puerh but, I think it’s true in this situation with these two teas.

Truth be told, next time I order from Yunnan Sourcing I may still have a cake of He Tao Di in my cart but I am really trying to resist the purchase of younger puerh and put my dollars toward some nice semi-aged stuff.  It is even plausible, that I might throw a few more Pussy cakes in a white2tea order if a sale is good enough to lure me in but really I am more curious about Paul’s white2tea blends which I have not sampled extensively.  So, it is most likely that I will purchase neither…. Or more of both….
Thank you for Paul and Scott for pressing these two beauties. 
I guess, I'll let you know if I end up ordering any.

Peace
 

2 comments:

marco said...

Thanks for making this comparison! Good idea!

Matt said...

Marco,

I thought so too!

Peace